1) Andare a pesca
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2) Insignificante malfunzionamento
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Ecco un paio di filmati che riguardano il famoso lanciarazzi russo RPG
1) Andare a pesca
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2) Insignificante malfunzionamento
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1) Andare a pesca
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in ogni caso l'articolo riguarda il "ripescaggio" di un T-34 con insegne tedesche in Estonia:
Ecco l'articolo e i filmati :
WW-II Trophy tank
14 September 2000, a Komatsu D375A-2 pulled an abandoned tank from its archival tomb under the bottom of a lake near Johvi, Estonia. The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it’s a 27-tonne machine with a top speed of 53km/h.
From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the northeastern part of Estonia. Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944, the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army. (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank’s exterior.) On 19 September 1944, German troops began an organised retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake, abandoning it when its captors left the area.
At that time, a local boy walking by the lake Kurtna Matasjarv noticed tank tracks leading into the lake, but not coming out anywhere. For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armoured vehicle at the lake’s bottom. A few years ago, he told the story to the leader of the local war history club “Otsing”. Together with other club members, Mr Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.
Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov’s leadership, decided to pull the tank out. In September 2000 they turned to Mr Aleksander Borovkovthe, manager of the Narva open pit of the stock company AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company’s Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.
The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00, with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The weight of the fully armed tank was around 30 tons, so the tractive force required to retrieve it was similar. A main requirement for the 68-tonne dozer was to have enough weight to prevent shoe-slip while moving up the hill.
After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a ‘trophy’ tank, that had been captured by the German army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with no rust, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition.
This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are under way to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum, that will be founded at the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narva.
Looking at the two tracked machines, the modern yellow Komatsu dozer is a reminder of how machine technologies have advanced, and the region’s prospects of peace and prosperity have brightened.
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in ogni caso l'articolo riguarda il "ripescaggio" di un T-34 con insegne tedesche in Estonia:
Ecco l'articolo e i filmati :
WW-II Trophy tank
14 September 2000, a Komatsu D375A-2 pulled an abandoned tank from its archival tomb under the bottom of a lake near Johvi, Estonia. The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it’s a 27-tonne machine with a top speed of 53km/h.
From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the northeastern part of Estonia. Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944, the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army. (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank’s exterior.) On 19 September 1944, German troops began an organised retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake, abandoning it when its captors left the area.
At that time, a local boy walking by the lake Kurtna Matasjarv noticed tank tracks leading into the lake, but not coming out anywhere. For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armoured vehicle at the lake’s bottom. A few years ago, he told the story to the leader of the local war history club “Otsing”. Together with other club members, Mr Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.
Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov’s leadership, decided to pull the tank out. In September 2000 they turned to Mr Aleksander Borovkovthe, manager of the Narva open pit of the stock company AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company’s Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.
The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00, with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The weight of the fully armed tank was around 30 tons, so the tractive force required to retrieve it was similar. A main requirement for the 68-tonne dozer was to have enough weight to prevent shoe-slip while moving up the hill.
After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a ‘trophy’ tank, that had been captured by the German army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with no rust, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition.
This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are under way to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum, that will be founded at the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narva.
Looking at the two tracked machines, the modern yellow Komatsu dozer is a reminder of how machine technologies have advanced, and the region’s prospects of peace and prosperity have brightened.
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sulla rivista dedicata al T-34 dell'ultimo mese
segnalano che quello stesso tank dopo la sostituzione di alcuni pezzi minori si è rimesso in moto senza problemi
altro che tecnologia moderna.... 60 anni imbucato nel fango e un Abrams non si muoverebbe nemmeno più per colpa dell'elettronica andata al diavolo 
segnalano che quello stesso tank dopo la sostituzione di alcuni pezzi minori si è rimesso in moto senza problemi
altro che tecnologia moderna.... 60 anni imbucato nel fango e un Abrams non si muoverebbe nemmeno più per colpa dell'elettronica andata al diavolo -
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60 anni imbucato nel fango e un Abrams non si muoverebbe nemmeno più per colpa dell'elettronica andata al diavolo
Bè, non si possono fare paragoni con mezzi moderni, proprio per il fatto che l'elettronica con umidità e campi magnetici fa presto ad andare fuori uso.
Semmai si potrebbe dire che, come abbiamo già osservato in altri topic, i mezzi russi godevano di un'indiscutibile superiorità su quelli tedeschi per quanto riguarda l'affidabilità; erano progettati in modo più spartano, ma anche più resistente ai climi estremi.
Comunque, se ho capito bene, il T34 ripescato era sepolto nel fango, che è un buon protettivo; infatti nell'articolo si dice che non c'era ruggine.
Se fosse stato in acqua, poggiato sul fondo, non credo che sarebbe rimasto in così buone condizioni.
è inutile, le cose di una volta sono migliori per un certo verso72sq_SilVal ha scritto:60 anni imbucato nel fango e un Abrams non si muoverebbe nemmeno più per colpa dell'elettronica andata al diavolo
Bè, non si possono fare paragoni con mezzi moderni, proprio per il fatto che l'elettronica con umidità e campi magnetici fa presto ad andare fuori uso.
Semmai si potrebbe dire che, come abbiamo già osservato in altri topic, i mezzi russi godevano di un'indiscutibile superiorità su quelli tedeschi per quanto riguarda l'affidabilità; erano progettati in modo più spartano, ma anche più resistente ai climi estremi.
Comunque, se ho capito bene, il T34 ripescato era sepolto nel fango, che è un buon protettivo; infatti nell'articolo si dice che non c'era ruggine.
Se fosse stato in acqua, poggiato sul fondo, non credo che sarebbe rimasto in così buone condizioni.